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Gestern habe ich darauf aufmerksam gemacht, dass körperliche Erregung und Lust zwei unterschiedliche Dinge sein können.
In einem alten Experiment wurde die körperliche Erregung von Proband*innen gemessen, in dem sie verschiedene Bilder gezeigt bekommen haben. Gleichzeitig wurde Puls, Gehirnströme und
körperliche Reaktionen (vaginale Feuchtigkeit, p=nisreaktionen) gemessen. Die Proband*innen sollten sagen ob sie das Bild erregt. Es zeigte sich dabei, dass oft das angesehene
Bild (z.B. Tulpe) nicht unbedingt Lust hervorrief, aber laut Messung körperliche Erregung.
Auch beim S+× können Erregung und Lust unterschiedlich verlaufen.
Masters und Johnson teilten die körperlichen, sexuellen Raktionen in ihrem sexuellen Reaktionszyklus in 4 Phasen auf.
1. Erregungsphase
2. Plateauphase
3. Orgasmusphase
4. Rückbildungsphase
Die unterschiedlichen Phasen werden individuell schnell/langsam erreicht. Lust ein wichtiger Faktor sein kann um die 3. Phase zu erreichen. Du kannst aber auch abspritzen ohne ein Gefühl des
Orgasmus zu haben. Dann war deine körperliche Erregung höher wie deine Lust.
In der Erregungsphase kann es erst die Lust brauchen um erregt zu werden. Da ist die gestrige Frage, was macht dich an, was brauchst du um in Stimmung zu kommen. Wahrscheinlich ist eine
längere Phase der körperlichen Stimulation nötig. Umgekehrt geht das auch. Du bist erregt und bekommst dann Lust. Da ist die körperliche Stimulationsphase nicht so lang.
Bei der 2. Phase kann es dazu kommen, dass die körperliche Erregung auf einem Level bleibt und/oder kurzzeitig abfallen. Manche erreichen auch nicht die 3. Phase.
Das kann viele Gründe haben. Evtl. reicht die Stimulation nicht (körperliche Erregung zu gering) oder du bist irgendwie noch so gestresst, dass du nicht richtig abschalten kannst usw.
(Lustkurve bleibt stehen).
Es kann aber auch sein, dass deine körperliche Erregung so hoch ist, dass du abspritzt, ohne das deine Lustkurve das selbe Level hat. Der Org@smus kann sich unbefriedigend anfühlen, wie wenn
beide Kurven im Einklang sind. ICD-11-Relevant könnten wir hier auch von vorzeitiger Ejakulation sprechen. Und ich rede jetzt nicht von 15 Minuten später, sondern wir befinden uns in einem
Zeitrahmen von unter ein paar Minuten.
Zu einem Leidensdruck kann es also kommen, wenn deine Erregung und deine Lust nicht gemeinsam den "Point of no return" (der Moment kurz vor dem Orgasmus, an dem du nicht zurück kannst) erreichen.
Steigt dein Level der körperlichen Erregung schneller wie deine Lust, kann es sich nicht vollständig befriedigend anfühlen. Erreicht deine körperliche Erregung nicht den "Point of no return" kann
es sein, dass du in deiner Lust nicht wirklich weißt ob du einen Orgasmus hattest, bzw. diesen auch einfach nicht erreichst.
Beide Fälle können zu Frustration führen. In beiden Fällen ist eine körperliche Abklärung sinnvoll bzw. auch zu gucken, was weitere Gründe sein könnten (Medikamente, Stress, Ängste, Langeweile,
Wut, etc.).
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Yesterday I pointed out that physical arousal and pleasure can be two different things.
In an old experiment, the physical arousal of test subjects was measured by showing them various images. At the same time, pulse, brain waves and physical reactions (vaginal moisture, p=nis reactions) were measured. The test subjects were asked to say whether the image aroused them. It turned out that often the image viewed (e.g. tulip) did not necessarily evoke lust, but physical arousal according to the measurement.
Arousal and pleasure can also differ in S+×.
Masters and Johnson divided the physical, sexual reactions in their sexual reaction cycle into 4 phases.
1. arousal phase
2. plateau phase
3. orgasm phase
4. regression phase
The different phases are reached individually quickly/slowly. Pleasure can be an important factor in reaching the 3rd phase. However, you can also cum without feeling orgasmic. In this case, your physical arousal was higher than your pleasure.
In the arousal phase, it can take lust to become aroused. So yesterday's question is, what turns you on, what do you need to get in the mood? A longer phase of physical stimulation is probably necessary. The reverse is also possible. You are aroused and then you feel like it. The physical stimulation phase is not as long.
In the 2nd phase, the physical arousal may remain at one level and/or drop off briefly. Some don't reach the 3rd phase either.
There can be many reasons for this. The stimulation may not be enough (physical arousal too low) or you are somehow still so stressed that you can't switch off properly, etc. (pleasure curve stops). (pleasure curve stops).
However, it is also possible that your physical arousal is so high that you cum without your pleasure curve reaching the same level. Org@sm can feel unsatisfactory, as when both curves are in harmony. In ICD-11 terms, we could also talk about premature ejaculation here. And I'm not talking about 15 minutes later, but we are talking about a time frame of less than a few minutes.
This means that you may suffer if your arousal and your pleasure do not reach the point of no return together (the moment just before orgasm when you can't go back). If your level of physical arousal rises faster than your pleasure, it may not feel completely satisfying. If your physical arousal does not reach the point of no return, you may not really know whether you have had an orgasm or simply not reach it.
In an old experiment, the physical arousal of test subjects was measured by showing them various images. At the same time, pulse, brain waves and physical reactions (vaginal moisture, p=nis reactions) were measured. The test subjects were asked to say whether the image aroused them. It turned out that often the image viewed (e.g. tulip) did not necessarily evoke lust, but physical arousal according to the measurement.
Arousal and pleasure can also differ in S+×.
Masters and Johnson divided the physical, sexual reactions in their sexual reaction cycle into 4 phases.
1. arousal phase
2. plateau phase
3. orgasm phase
4. regression phase
The different phases are reached individually quickly/slowly. Pleasure can be an important factor in reaching the 3rd phase. However, you can also cum without feeling orgasmic. In this case, your physical arousal was higher than your pleasure.
In the arousal phase, it can take lust to become aroused. So yesterday's question is, what turns you on, what do you need to get in the mood? A longer phase of physical stimulation is probably necessary. The reverse is also possible. You are aroused and then you feel like it. The physical stimulation phase is not as long.
In the 2nd phase, the physical arousal may remain at one level and/or drop off briefly. Some don't reach the 3rd phase either.
There can be many reasons for this. The stimulation may not be enough (physical arousal too low) or you are somehow still so stressed that you can't switch off properly, etc. (pleasure curve stops). (pleasure curve stops).
However, it is also possible that your physical arousal is so high that you cum without your pleasure curve reaching the same level. Org@sm can feel unsatisfactory, as when both curves are in harmony. In ICD-11 terms, we could also talk about premature ejaculation here. And I'm not talking about 15 minutes later, but we are talking about a time frame of less than a few minutes.
This means that you may suffer if your arousal and your pleasure do not reach the point of no return together (the moment just before orgasm when you can't go back). If your level of physical arousal rises faster than your pleasure, it may not feel completely satisfying. If your physical arousal does not reach the point of no return, you may not really know whether you have had an orgasm or simply not reach it.
Both cases can lead to frustration. In both cases, it makes sense to have a physical examination or to see what other reasons there might be (medication, stress, anxiety, boredom, anger, etc.).
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